A. Do you accept that it should be legal?
B. Do you accept it as moral?
C. Should gays be able to marry?
D. Should there be special hate laws for use against people beating up gays because they are gay?
E. Should political pressure be put on nations that outlaw homosexuality?
Here's one responder and my arguement with him:
He who shall not be named
A. NO
B. NO
C. NO
D. NO (people also beat up people because they are obese, etc)
E. NO
Gosh, that was easy!!
If you dont cut the tree at its roots and only trim the leaves and branches, the tree will still grow.
Why? Because homosexuals wish to pervert people with their perversion. Simple and to the point.
Me
This is evil. First, you assume homosexuals are evil and now you want to exterminate them - actually committing an act of greater evil. You are sick.
He who shall not be named
I NEVER stated that the HOMOSEXUALS are to be destroyed.
What I DID state is that the HOMOSEXUALITY should be cut right out, NOT the PEOPLE.
The HOMOSEXUAL ACT(S) IS/ARE the problem, NOT the people.
My apologies nevertheless for not clarifying my position.
Me
It's quite clear what you said. You eliminate homosexuality and jewishness* in the same way.
(*Edit: I should have said dark skin here but I left it in for authenticity)
He who shall not be named
My tree analogy was...eliminating homosexuality, NOT the people...and one major way is to educate them and their current lifestyle.
Me
Another is to educate you and your bigotry.
He who shall not be named
I would rather be a bigot, not only in your eyes, but in the entire world's eyes, than to be a bigot in God's eyes (emphasis mine) (pls note: not to be misunderstood by assuming that God is bigoted...im just making a point)
Plus, the whole world has seen the results of homosexuality.
Me
And if your god doesn't exist where does that leave you?
You just voted yourself off the island.
Goodbye.
Humanity will still be here if you ever wish to rejoin us.
I couldn't believe that this guy would take a stand against every person in the world, not for the good of humanity, but for god! How can you possibly deal with a person like this?
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I agree that his comments and position are pretty appalling, but definitely representative of those who like to think that they're "unafraid to speak for God".
After some time trying to get these people to use critical thinking and to consider matters outside the coloured lenses of dogma, I've come to the realisation that you cannot simply reason with the unreasonable and hope to make progress. It sounds tautological, and it is - just as with not being able to tell a smoker to stop, unreason and dogma are things that people need to realise for themselves. As with giving up smoking, they need to recognise and want it for themselves - not for what we, logic and reason want for them. Perhaps by example or perhaps by discussion and good-natured debate. But not by argument, shouted volleys, and appeals to common sense or reality. To do otherwise is to fight on their grounds and terms.
Or to put it into a one-liner example: You should never wrestle with a pig - you get dirty and the pig enjoys it. :)
I can't help but worry that irrational, unreasonable people have access to cars and guns. I really see this type of person as very, very dangerous. If we want to reduce the number of criminals in the world, shouldn't we be screening for this person, early in life and finding a way to reach their humanity?
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